So, clever people designed religion to control the population centuries ago. Why do you believe the lies now?

Do you really think that a god ';just happened to appear'; that could know and do everything. It is more likely that the Big Bang theory is correct and everything just evolved. All religion does is give hope to the people who do not have the inner strength to overcome or empower those who seek to rule. Just about all wars in the past and probably the future have been over religious ideals. Are you telling me that a god who created every thing was not clever enough to cut out the religious choice and avoid all the misery, death and bloodshed arising from this? Just because clever people, a couple of thousand years ago, fooled the masses then and wrote about it does not mean it is the truth. Look at all the corruption continually uncovered amongst the clergy. they are amongst the worst. Let me make a deal with you religious folks, I will leave you to run you own lives if you leave me to organise my own.So, clever people designed religion to control the population centuries ago. Why do you believe the lies now?
Those clever people were called ';False Prophets';. They will be called in for questioning. The answers that came out of them are called ';lies';.








Your sister,


GingerSo, clever people designed religion to control the population centuries ago. Why do you believe the lies now?
You fall into the classic trap they might have been a Big Bang but what about before that could it of been a Creator who triggered it? You other point on war is also false in the last century most war was not connected with religion and as Christian i don't believe were just biological machines and we have freewill so the issue of war , death and immorality is due to choices we make and this has gotten worse as a society we have turned away from Christian values. Yes there has been corruption in some churches but that's down to weakness and bad decisions and does not reflect the faith or gospel .Today the control comes from the corrupt state and immoral media which is leading our youth astray greater teenage pregnancies , STDs , broken families , violent crime and much more maybe if you questioned that instead of making dodgy claims about faith it might open your eyes.
Spot on there, My son.





I would correct a few of your points;-


1. The people that got together and wrote the religious texts were not clever (have you read the thing???), they were dubious, unscrupulous and will stop at nothing to achieve their selfish aims yes.





2. They are still here, these people, they never left. I don't know how they do it, but they do.





3. Not only did they tamper with our fellowship with God (God actually being Love, tons of orgies back in the day, back in the day being some 200, 000 yrs ago) via their mind numbingling restrictive religion, they also tempereed with our DNA, making us more stupid by day, so that we fall for their ****. Where DNA failed to do the trick, there was war, and so called witch hunts, ethnic cleansing of indigenious tribes in America, Africa and Australia and stuff like that to finish the job.





4. Proof that they are here - They are still messing with our DNA - GM foods and flouride in water come to mind. Have you heard what these things do to us.





5. The only way to beat them is LOVE, LOVE AND MORE LOVE. By Love I mean the abscense of Fear.


Love them, love your mates, love yourself, love life, fear nothing, soon we'll get the upper hand.





6. You'll find that their so-called gateway to heaven, i.e. Religion, is full of hate. Watch the FUNDAMENTALISTS and observe how much hatred spews from them, you'll see what I mean, they have them hooked and missing the whole picture of LOVE, who is our true God. Their God unbeknowst to them is Fear. Worship me or else, serve me or else, do this or else, don't do that or else.





But keep searching for the truth, you're nearly there already. Find a way to fill your heart with Love(Real love, not the romantic mumbo jumbo, or the misunderstood human love that traps and imprisons, I mean the real thing, the one that sets you free. Don't stop until you find it, and when you do, you'll know).
Ooops! The cassock's gonna hit the fan now! Well said!
Your premise is false on it's face, and will do you absolutely no good.





You don't know the truth, even though it's always been there for you to see.





Wise up before it's too late.
';All religion does is give hope to the people who do not have the inner strength to overcome or empower those who seek to rule';





That's just silly.How would you know my inner strength,and how can you judge whether I am capable of overcoming rulers.





';Just about all wars in the past and probably the future have been over religious ideals.';





Not true.The World Wars weren't about religion.Vietnam wasn't about religion.East Timor wasn't about religion.The Korean War wasn't about religion.





';Are you telling me that a god who created every thing was not clever enough to cut out the religious choice and avoid all the misery, death and bloodshed arising from this?';





God gave us free will.Would you rather be a puppet on a string?





';Just because clever people, a couple of thousand years ago, fooled the masses then and wrote about it does not mean it is the truth.';





I have never said that my religion was true just because 'someone wrote about it',and I am getting tired of the contant accusations that I am being controlled or fooled.Christianity was not founded on the idea that they could gain control-they were being killed off as martyrs for several hundred years!





';Look at all the corruption continually uncovered amongst the clergy. they are amongst the worst.';





That's like saying that just because an atheist might lie,all atheists are liars.
Don't confuse religion with a personal relationship with God. The idea of religion is to establish an institution for worship and fellowship with others as you maintain your personal relationship with God. The problem is ignorant people understand robotically following rituals rather than the meaning and purpose behind them and so other people took advantage of it. Politics did the same thing.





Oh yeah, and not believing in the possibility of God is saying that one day science will not discover God exists. Assuming you know more than any scientist who will ever live is as ignorant as it sounds. After all, people used to think the world was flat and couldn't grasp that the earth is not the center of the universe despite all their science at the time. Not to mention the fact that most science about the Big Bang is theory derived from looking at stars millions of miles away with no real experiementation or proving of theory - just like beliefs about God.
you may live your who makes you come on yahoo. I know Jesus is in my life, no one can make you believe in God but when you know him you wont to share it may he bless you today.
If a fool like George Bush can run 8 years in White House, why can't these people still believe that bullsh*t?
Any more the ';Big Bang'; sounds like a ';Big Hand-job';- who cares. Why is it so important to believe any of this????
the age old question.....





did God create man - or did man create God?





it would certainly be a good way to control the masses. the law system is worked around the 10 commandments are they not?





we will never know......
Putting your faith in the Big bang will not give you eternal life pal.





I hope you are smart enough to figure that out...maybe not.





Jesus promised eternal life to those who repent of their sins and believe what he did on the cross....its your choice...





Eternal death....or eternal life......you make the decision. No one else will care ...have a wonderful eternity.





As for us ...we have already made our decision for Christ....all your babeling will not change that.
i think everything happens for a purpose, misery, death and bad things happens because of sin. and clergy? they're human not God, so they made mistakes.





with religion, i have hope for a better life and i enjoy it ^_^ maybe people can't see the advantages of a religion but i personally can FEEL it in my heart.
Contraversial.... but good question. I'm just waiting to see what answers you get.
I DON'T, but a lot of people who do have been told by everyone close to them (parents, religious folk, teachers, even their peers) that it's all true, so why would they listen to strangers on the Internet telling them they have been lied to by everyone they care about, they wouldn't, even though there is no evidence to substantiate the religious bollocks, they will still pass the lies to their own kids and so it continues with the next generation.
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